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Polybius 10-18-2007 01:48 AM

Am I on the wrong path with my Beretta?
 
I am new on this board. Seen topics on Glocks, Sigs, and various other favorites.

I never hear a word about Berettas, is there some sort of stigma against it because it was considered lowest bidder military fodder? I've had my 92-FS for 15 years now. Got it when I was 21 and paid almost $500 for it in CA - a rather large chunck of my paycheck back then. I've gone on to acquire various long guns and can probably afford any gun I want now but never considered wrapping my fingers around another hand gun other than my Beretta. She never jammed even once, not even a stove pipe, this is after going through 2 barrels. Accuracy was never an issue and I can take it apart, clean it, and put it back together as easily as I can pick my nose.

So is it crap? passe? or you guys just don't care for it? Please let me know where I stand with my trusty old friend.

Libertarian_Guard 10-18-2007 01:54 AM

Re: Am I on the wrong path with my Beretta?
 
She's a keeper.

The Berretta is the only 9 mm I've ever fired and it was a welcome relief over the colt .45 - - the bullet went where it was pointed. You can't ask for more than that.

Professur 10-18-2007 09:01 AM

Re: Am I on the wrong path with my Beretta?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Polybius (Post 785029)
I am new on this board. Seen topics on Glocks, Sigs, and various other favorites.

I never hear a word about Berettas, is there some sort of stigma against it because it was considered lowest bidder military fodder? I've had my 92-FS for 15 years now. Got it when I was 21 and paid almost $500 for it in CA - a rather large chunck of my paycheck back then. I've gone on to acquire various long guns and can probably afford any gun I want now but never considered wrapping my fingers around another hand gun other than my Beretta. She never jammed even once, not even a stove pipe, this is after going through 2 barrels. Accuracy was never an issue and I can take it apart, clean it, and put it back together as easily as I can pick my nose.

So is it crap? passe? or you guys just don't care for it? Please let me know where I stand with my trusty old friend.

Seems to me you answered your own question. A review is always about someone else's gun. If yours works for you, you don't need someone else's blessing.

jrog100 10-18-2007 09:13 AM

Re: Am I on the wrong path with my Beretta?
 
I think the reason that no one talks about the Beretta is because they're old news. That's not to say it isn't a quality firearm. The 92 F has been around for better than 20 years. Glock / Sig / Smith are a little more innovative with broader product lines.

shades2 10-18-2007 09:20 AM

Re: Am I on the wrong path with my Beretta?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lars Ragnarsson (Post 785074)
First, some background on the "lowest bidder" stereotype. I remember way back when after the military went with the M-9 (Beretta Model 92F) over the "Made in USA" weapons, especially S&W. Created a big stink about how our own military wasn't "buying American."

An article appeared in a gunning mag (can't remember which), and it described the testing process the contractors used to choose the next military sidearm. What I remember most was how the folks at S&W insisted on a firm appointment for them to come test. When the testers got there, they were handed six pistols that the S&W people hand-picked for them to test.

When they contacted Beretta, they said, "Come any time you like." When the testers showed up, they were shown to a room with 6,000 pistols on the wall. The inspectors asked, "Which six do you want us to shoot?" The answer was, "Any six you like."

In addition, the Beretta had fewer malfunctions than the S&W model. That's why the Beretta won - at the time, it outperformed the competition.

I know there's Beretta haters here, and the 92F has its drawbacks. Yes, it's big for people with smaller hands, and the open slide allowed excessive dirt/debris in the action in sandy and mucky field conditions.

That said, I've had one since the late 80s. One of the "Made in Italy" ones from before they converted the old Federal plant in Accokeek, MD. I used to buy cheap Blazer ammo for TP (I didn't know any better then). My wife and I would go to the range with her S&W LadySmith and my 92F, and once we also tried a Glock (forget which 9mm model it was). Anyway, my Beretta has put every type of ammo I've ever tried downrange without a malfunction. Meanwhile, we experienced several stovepipes and other jams with the LadySmith and the Glock - one of the reasons I've never owned a Glock.

So yeah, it's a little big for concealed carry (but not impossible), but since you probably don't have a lot of sand or mud in your home, it's an excellent and reliable home defense weapon. I also got a 96F (.40 S&W) when I was in Germany for a good price.

So you're not alone - I love my Berettas. :thumbs up

The Glock will only stove-pipe if you limp wrist it or use bad ammo that doesn't cycle the slide properly. When I first started out I had a few stove-pipes until I got used to the grip and learnt how to hold a pistol properly. It's probably an ergonomic thing, not everyone likes the Glock grip, the controls, or the angle of the grip, which is quite unlike a 1911. My friend likes to shoot pistols one-handed or left handed, and is quite good at it doing it now, but he used to get a number of stovepipes while fooling around.

Me? I still prefer a two-handed grip, but I should learn to shoot a bit with my off-hand. It's a lot harder than it looks to get accuracy, the shaking is much more pronounced with one hand.

Professur 10-18-2007 09:22 AM

Re: Am I on the wrong path with my Beretta?
 
I do like their safety tho.

SilverCity 10-18-2007 09:55 AM

Re: Am I on the wrong path with my Beretta?
 
nothing wrong with Berettas...fine quality firearms...I think they are still issued to the U.S. Border Patrol...

REV127 10-18-2007 11:04 AM

Re: Am I on the wrong path with my Beretta?
 
You know the old saying, "if it ain't broke don't fix it." Sounds like your Beretta works fine, keep it. There are no magic bullets, no magic guns either.

The Beretta wasn't a lowest bidder situation, it was a political one. As I recall they wanted to build a base, I think for the Navy, somewhere in Italy. Part of the deal that was agreed to was the contract that got us the Beretta. They did have issues when first rolled out, yours clearly doesn't suffer from them so I wouldn't worry about it.

The main mark against the 92 series in my mind is the fact that it has an aluminum frame yet is heavier and bulkier than some steel framed alternatives. That might deter me from buying one but if you already have one and it works fine for you then there's no reason to ditch it.

wallew 10-18-2007 11:42 AM

Re: Am I on the wrong path with my Beretta?
 
There have been reports of a FEW Beretta 92F slides failing. But hey, the military beats the SNOT out of them so that's to be expected. I have always felt Beretta makes a quality product. And I believe that the Army's Marksmanship Unit (elite shooting squad) ONLY uses Beretta.

I've even posted a thread about the Beretta shotgun that has virtually NO felt recoil.

You've got a great gun. DON'T do anything but normal maintenance and she will serve you for years to come. Plus, from what I've heard, expect a flood of military Berettas to eventually be released from military service once they choose it's replacement, whatever and whenever that will be.

Now, that 9mm round can be a good one, but I just like different rounds.

My choices are .357/.38 or the 7.62x25 if I feel like carrying an automatic.

But you have a keeper for sure. Don't let ANYONE tell you different.

Abouthadit 10-18-2007 12:54 PM

Re: Am I on the wrong path with my Beretta?
 
Get a subscription to Gun Tests for unbiased facts.

Polybius 10-18-2007 02:27 PM

Re: Am I on the wrong path with my Beretta?
 
Thanks all!!!

I wasn’t planning on ditching my old pal, just wondering if anyone had anything to address when it came to reliability. 15 years ago prior to buying my 92FS I did read about slides failing and giving the shooter a face full of metal during testing, but mine does have a beefed up slide. Sounds like I won’t need to get an additional pistol as far as meeting the basics, and she’ll remain my one an only favorite. I appreciate all the feedback from you.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...comparison.jpg

"Of these three 9mm pistols, we liked the Beretta 92FS (left) the best. The Desert Eagle from Magnum Research (center) was a little heavier than the others and not quite as accurate. We would also consider buying the SIGArms Model P226, right. The holster is the Gould and Goodrich Model B811-92F, which will carry any of the three pistols." - Gun Tests

SWEET

Onboard 10-18-2007 05:18 PM

Re: Am I on the wrong path with my Beretta?
 
If imitation is truely the sincerest form of flattery I would bet the Berreta is a fine pistol.

I bought the Taurus PT 92 ( the Berreta clone) back in '92 and it was one tough pistol, always went bang and it was accurate enough for me. I wish I had kept count of how many rounds I put through it 'cause I used to shoot that thing a lot.

I liked it so much I bought another one about a month ago when the 9mm ammo thread was hot and heavy, ya'll got me jonesing bad.

That's OK though, I lost my first one in a boating accident a little while back along with all my PM's.:D

I love these gun threads.:coolbeer:

Horn 10-18-2007 05:26 PM

Re: Am I on the wrong path with my Beretta?
 
I'd take a beretta over a 1911 model anyday.


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